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Tuesday, October 13
News from Kate!
Depending on your perspective, Joe and I are either too cool or too old to use FaceBook so I am heeding a call to revive the blog a bit...
Friday, May 1
ANZAC ROFFs
There have been some enquiries about Roffs and Anzac.
There is a 1 August 2014 posting on Roff Report.
In the meantime the focus is on Jack.
The above photo is from Mum's files – Jack in full regalia.
The date is interesting. He was joined up at 21 years and 7 months on 2nd May 1915, with his brother William Frederick (Fred) a couple of years older. Jack was a Law Clerk, and Fred was a chemist, and may have completed his apprenticeship under Cyril Newton and Adam Newton at Enmore. What enticed them to sign up? Hard to say. But that's 100 years to the day if this is posted by tomorrow. His enlistment papers recommend him for the 3rd AGH, and Mum had mentioned his step-brother Dr Will Newton pulled some strings to get him in there, with Fred's chemist experience lending weight.
They sailed on the Mooltan for Europe on 15th May, so basic training must have been basic, and reports are that training continued on the boat. He did not travel very well, and had 14 days hospitalised while on the Mooltan from 20th May until 2nd June.
The 3rd AGH arrived in England, expecting to be posted to Europe but were diverted via Egypt as the Gallipoli campaign was escalating, and arrived at Lemnos Island (not Lesbos) in late July. Lemnos is 50 miles from the Gallipoli peninsula. The 3rd AGF was set up at a place called Mudros on the island.
You can track their movements to Europe on the Mooltan at a couple of websites:
http://www.gallipoli.gov.au/nurses-at-gallipoli/
and
http://throughtheselines.com.au/research/3-AGH
[This is an excellent website and has links to a summary of war records, with photos which Jack could be in. They also have photos of 1915 superimposed on current day – there are about 10 or so on display at Mitchell Library.]
Jack's movements on Lemnos are of course unknown. As a private he probably started in setting up the base camp and hospital, but at some stage he must have been assigned to collect the wounded from the bases at 'Gallipoli' and ferry them back for hospital treatment. No glory in that. The websites report an August Offensive with high casualty rates. Reportedly a kind soul, I imagine Jack offering comfort to some battered human beings on the boat to Mudros.
Mum reports he was at Gallipoli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56vkusRgoE
You would not argue with that. (My apologies for suggesting it was Lesbos Island…just testing them)
But his stay in the action was short-lived, though I imagine he had seen enough for a lifetime. The websites report that though there was a good survival rate in the hospital casualties, disease became bad over the summer. Flies. Jack's records show he was promoted to Lance Corporal on November 11th 1915, but succumbed to jaundice (hepatitis?) and admitted to the 3rd AGH on the island on 25th November until discharged to duty on 8th January 1916, so 45 days. He was not much good after that it seems, "off-strength" which would be consistent with hepatitis, and so sent to Alexandria on 27th January. He was eventually repatriated from Cairo in August on the Seang Choon, with instructions to have a hernia attended to. Poor guy.
So what is the significance of the date on the photo? 12 August I would have him on Lemnos, but maybe sailed on the boat with the nurses who arrived after the forward brigade.
The websites link to some photos by AW Savage, and one from Christmas 1915 is below.
I wonder if Jack is in the photo, or still confined to bed. Fred may have been in the shot.
To confirm, I have Jack's photo album of his time with the 3rd AGH, and I wonder how he was allowed to take photos and apparently having a camera was verboten, or maybe he bought some off Mr Savage – they look very similar to his. There are not many of "action", I think he was over the novelty of it all by that stage. What to do what to do.
But be thankful he survived it all, not sent to the Western Front as the 3rd AGH was, and was able to return, discharged from duty in November to join theatre and musical groups, meet Mona and start our families.
His war records I secured on line some time ago…do not remember the links. But here are some selected pages.
Brendan
Wednesday, March 4
Monday, January 19
Mona Green anyone?
Well I am back manacled to the desk after a happy week in Tuross. How about youse?
There was some conjecture in developing the family tree last week about the real identity of Mona Green who married Jack Roff. Her grandchildren knew her as Mardi and were generally in awe of her. But Eileen Mona Green she was, as per the wedding pics and description attached, obtained from another of Mum's dossiers (Roff, Osborne, Musgrave, Seage, Bernasconi amongst others). A bit of trivia is that Mardi/Mona turned 120 last Monday (12th Jan). I have never known the Roff's to be big headed, but looking at Jack in the photo I would forgive any of you if you were. Well, he was my grandfather too.
The other wedding shot is of Frank Green, Mona's elder brother, marrying Linda McBride. They produced Don (1922), Noel (1926) and Max (1928). Max died quite young. Noel sadly passed away last week and his funeral was last Friday while we were in Tuross. His son Mark came to Betty's funeral. So there is only one of that generation of Green-Roff remaining…and he (Ken), derived from Walter and Thelma, has lived in Canada since he was 20.
Not sure if you can read the fine print….but trust me.
Brendan
Sunday, January 18
Merry Christmas from WA
Thursday, January 8
Wednesday, December 10
Merry Christmas!
Lots of love and big hugs
Friday, December 5
Off to work - Hanoi style
Monday, November 10
Friday, November 7
Vale Bonnie
She had a great life full of adventures and loved her family. Everyone's upset but, as Annika pointed out, she'll live on in the epic feature film, 'Bonnie to the Rescue'. I'll put it on the blog again to remind you of how fearless she was as a family protector.
Grant xx
Thursday, October 30
Roff report
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Saturday, October 25
Vale Paul Doohan
Monday, October 20
Introducing...
Sunday, October 12
Welcome to the family, Evie.
After much debate we have named her Evangelion, with a nod to Aunty Betty Seage (Eva) and Andrew and Rowan's favourite Japanese cartoon, Neon Genesis Evangelion. It's Evie for short
Sunday, September 21
Vale Norma
Wednesday, September 3
Lourdes
Grant xx
Mass of Thanksgiving and Farewell
20th April 1924 – 20th August 2014
Lourdes Chapel, Lourdes Village, Killara
Monday 25 August 2014
Wednesday, August 20
Vale Aunty Betty
Tuesday, August 5
Dom departs
Dom and Katie have both just finished their degrees (well some are slightly more finished than others....) and have headed off on for a working holiday in Canada. They have 2 year visas but are not sure how long they'll stay - depends on work opportunities and how the money holds out.
Here's hoping Dom follows Zac and Lizzie's lead, and keeps the family occasionally informed of his wherabouts by putting the odd post up on the Roffreport. Have fun Dom and Katie.
Sunday, August 3
Uncle Grant
Friday, August 1
History Chest
Horses' Birthday.
So begins a year of centenary of war war war. ABC will soon show a doco story about nurses at Anzac, from their posting on Lemnos Island. Look out for the boys below as they were probably there at the time. Jack aged 21, Fred a couple of years older. So the story goes: Dr Will Newton (b. 1873) chaperoned his half brothers, Fred and Jack Roff, into the Hospital forces to keep them away from front line duty. Fred ended up a chemist and may have been apprenticed at the time. Jack has Gallipoli on his war record, so it could be assumed he was in the troop collecting the wounded by boat to bring back to the hospitals on Lemnos.
Dr. Will Newton (centre), half-brother to Frederick Roff (L) and Jack Roff (R)
at, or en route to, Lemnos Island, Greece 1915 as part of 3rd AGH.
For more info on the 3rd AGH go to www.anzacsite.gov.au/5environment/nurses/third-agh.html . Did not read like a pleasant winter.
Hope all is good in your worlds.
Brendan
Tuesday, July 22
Manila
Monday, June 23
Prince Andrew names his princess
Prince Rowan, in an emotional statement, said that the announcement was inconsiderate considering that the World Cup and Wimbledon should have rightly taken prominence. "Call me a traditionalist" he said.
Meanwhile, insiders have expressed concern that Lady Sarah may not necessarily know of Prince Andrew's propensity to cross-dressing and a secret addiction to Guns 'N Roses.
The Nation is engrossed with the couple's engagement and we at the Roff Report wish them all the best. No date has yet been set for the marriage. Prince Andrew was heard to say; "I am still in a fog!"
Ashley







































